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The short version: When Angua was all chirpy and happy for Cheery because female dwarfs can do everything that the male dwarfs do, Cheery replied: "Yes, PROVIDED we ONLY do what the males do."

That's what I don't like in a lot of so-called strong female characters: they only do what the males do and the authors seem to forget they're, primarily, NOT males. Granted we're two genders of the same animal; granted, the similarities are more than the differences; but there are some differences and I think that to ignore them is the apex of bad writing. Well, maybe not that, but any author who writes males with boobs who are not transsexual or transgendered and calls them 'female' offends me.

I mean, it's not as if there's a dearth of strong female characters in literature that are primarily female with all the natural - I KNOW! Wrong word, perhaps, imprecise word at best. Not really important methinks, please bear with me - differences in mental/emotional processes, not to mention the differences generated by the cultural demands of society regarding gender roles.

Look at Sophie Hatter. She's strong, she's as badass - and it's so typical of male gender stereotyping that strong = badass a lot - as they come, she's the protagonist and hero of the story, she saves everyone... AND she's so female she uses housekeeping as a weapon of mass destruction; she's so female her magic is literally life-giving; she takes passive-aggressiveness to new heights and she makes wonderful lovely magic hats.

Look at Ayaka. She is the epitome of demure young womanhood and she steamrolls over everybody's life until they're living it the way she thinks it's best for them. She has a backbone of solid titanium - adamantium, even - that one. She takes ultra-polite badassness to and over the top.

And, of course, of course look at Granny, Nanny and Magrat. Look at Agnes. Look at Sybil. And look at how I could go on and on and on naming fucking STRONG female characters who are primarily female and do a lot of things that males do, but not all because they're not really interested in doing ALL the things that males do.

Mind you, some times the line dividing a well written truly strong FEMALE character and a sort of travesty of femaleness is really really thin. I admit I go by intuition while reading. It depends of what kind of subtext and implied bias I perceive in the text and I'm sure it's a very personal reaction, but I strongly feel there are lines that have not to be crossed.

Got that off me chest. *PUFF* Next, I think, villains. I love villains, there can be no hero without a suitable villain. I hate and loathe and despise badly written villains. I'd rather have a not so well written hero (of both sexes) than an uninteresting villain (of both sexes). Villain, how I love thee! :-D

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-23 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingriam.livejournal.com
How far are you into it? I don't want to interrupt, but I'm kind of anxious to get that review you're no doubt cooking up. :D

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-23 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! *evil post-evil-laugh-cackle*

*ahem*

Almost done, you'll get yours in a couple of days. ^_-

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-23 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingriam.livejournal.com
I'll plan to read it on the weekend, then. :D Of course, with the way you're laughing, I almost think I should be worried about something... XD

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-24 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
The weekend it is. RL reared its ugly head *shakes fist* and I'm a tad bahind right now.

Naaaah, no worries, mate. I LIKE it. All serious critics have bouts of evil laughter coupled with cackling when drunk with TEH POWAH OF REVIEWING!!!eleventypoo :-D

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-27 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingriam.livejournal.com
Should I be looking for it in the evening or the morning; today or tommorow?

I'm excited!

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-28 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
Just posted, luv. WONDERFUL fic!

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-28 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingriam.livejournal.com
Much thank yous for your studied and in-depth review. :D I'm happy you enjoyed my story, and I hope you'll enjoy the next one when this one finishes. ;)

Oh, Ryan's dislike of Agito started in the tunnels, when he was getting queasy and short-tempered because of it. And, because of the fact that Ryan and Agito aren't very reflective at the best of times, neither of them talks about their feelings much, and Ryan likes pushing Agito's buttons, what might have been a simply resolved misunderstanding ballooned into... something of a situation. ;)

What is it that annoys you about Kenji? Just out of morbid curiosity.

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-28 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
Ah, Kenji... he doesn't annoy me as a character, I mean he's a well-written character so that's not a problem; he annoys me as a person, which, again, means he's well-written. One shouldn't like all characters in a story or apportion like or dislike according to the good guy/bad guy dichotomy (how very Rowlingish! YEURGH!); one finds characters and reacts according to her/his personality to them.

Was just telling you my reaction to him. :)

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-29 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingriam.livejournal.com
So, what is it about Kenji's personality that grates on you? I like to know these things.

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-30 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
Oh, alright. I was a SUPERBRAT when a child and children who are puppies wagging their tails at adults and wanting to PLEASE tend to irritate me.

Mind you, I loved and love my parents and I wasn't TEH queen of tantrums. Actually I didn't tantrum, I just tended to view adults with a cynical and an unimpressed eye, you know how it is.

As I said (98430259354 times :P:P:P) it's personal and it takes nothing away from the fact that the character is very well written and observed.

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-30 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingriam.livejournal.com
I knew it was just a matter of personality. ;) I just wanted to know precisely what kind of personality. ;)

I'm annoyingly persistant that way. ;)

Re: To be continued...

Date: 2008-07-30 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyingskull.livejournal.com
This is just a conspiracy to make me spill embarrassing - or not, as the case may be - secrets from my murky past, innit? *narrows eyes to slits*

Well, I'll tell you nothing more! Do you hear me? NOTHING! TCHA! :P

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